A review of the new TIGO TS4 Platform
Tigo optimizers have been on my to-do list for a while. With Tigo’s new range of optimisation, safety and monitoring on the “TS4 platform” if figured it was time to get around to it.
Tigo TS4 Platform Specs
What does a panel optimizer do?
An optimizer it a box of tricks that you sit behind individual solar panels to:
- Increase output. This is done by making solar panels run independently of each other, so one panel is not dragged down by the shade, soiling or mismatch of the other panels. TS4 optimisers do this by “impedance matching” panels.
- Increase safety: This is done by deactivating the power at the panel level in an unsafe situation.
- Monitor at a the panel level, so we can identify problems that may occur over time.
My meeting with Tigo
I used to avoid fancy terms like “Module Level Power Electronics” as it was solar “bling” that was not financially viable. However technology has developed, the price has come down. My work with Enphase and SolarEdge over the last two years has proven “MLPE” is not just viable but in many cases, Scottish common sense. When I heard that Tigo Energy’s trainer Raquel Kahn was over from Silicone Valley last week, I jumped at the chance at going to a training day.
I arrived fashionably late to what I expected was going to be a big gathering of solar nerds. I was happy, however, to see a heap of empty carparks Powerark’s Brisbane office. I was ushered upstairs and into the meeting room… they had been waiting for me?
How good is this: I was the only sparkie in the Tigo training day! The meeting included Raquel (Silicone Valley’s Tigo trainer), Jeff Routledge (Tigo general manager in Australia), a Jinko representative, David Ji and two of his staff from Powerark.Since I was the only sparkie there, I turned it into a two and a half our personal tutorial from Raquel and Jeff. Tigo. I totally geeked out.
If I could summarise the experience, I would say this: Tigo have got their product development ridiculously sorted out, but their marketing for some reason in Brisbane, lags behind. When SolarEdge did a training day last year, they attracted over a hundred solar nerds.
What’s so good about Tigo’s TS4 platform?
- Selective deployment. You only need to optimise the panels that have shade issues. This helps reduce upfront costs.
- Fewer components. SolarEdge brag about the fact that they have fewer components than Enphase. Tigo chip based solution has halved the component count of SolarEdge. Fewer components increase efficiency and reliability.
- Less work. It only works when it needs to. It only takes the output voltage of a panel down, if, and when required. This again increases efficiency and reliability.
- Agnostic. SolarEdge is not committed to any inverter. I am. I want to show you the advantage of Fronius. SolarEdge pretends they do this, but they don’t really.
- Better warranty. Let’s face it, SolarEdge and Tigo are new players to the solar manufacturing market. They have been around as long about as long as my more conservatively growing business MC Electrical: seven years. As rapidly growing young companies with what must be phenomenal capital expenditures, it may still all go pear shaped for either of them. But if you have a Fronius inverter with a Tigo embedded Jinko (Bloomberg Tier 1) panels, your warranty is rock solid.
- Battery compatibility. SolarEdge have the haloed Tesla, but again Tigo is inverter agnostic, so your options are endless. The Fronius Primo can be linked to an AC coupled battery such as Enphase, or the Fronius Symo Hybrid can be linked to the Tesla or the Fronius Battery.
Conclusion
I only met with Tigo last week, but I was so enthused by their product, I passed on that enthusiasm on to my sales staff. We installed our first Tigo system today – even before I could perform proof of concept on our warehouse roof. My installation team loved it, and that’s always a good indicator of a successful product to me! Keep tuned I’ll get them on my warehouse roof as a test soon; I reckon Tigo TS4 may be the next best thing in Solar!
I’m always keen to hear another point of view, so let me know your experience in the comments!
Mark Cavanagh.
8 Responses
Hi Paul, unsurprisingly we’re starting to see failures on Tigo optimisers. It’s possible but hard to track the fault down with panel-level monitoring. Blog about that coming soon.
Do you have any updates on Tigo optimizers as I’ve just tested the optimizer Monitorize option and they failed drastically, look forward to your reply
Hi Baiju, Sunpower and Tigo is the best setup you can get 🙂 Hopefully you got a Fronius inverter to match! It depends how old your panels are. If they are in the last 3 years or so, I don’t think PID will be a problem with most decent panels -, especially Sunpower. When was your system installed? I can check if Sunpower ever had issues with PID.
Dear Mark. I have Tigo optimizers connected to each of my Sunpower solar panels. I have heard about Potential Induced Degradation and I like to add anti PID devices. I am thinking of buying “ilumen PID box”. Solar panels will be connected to Tigo Optimzers and then connected to PID box and then fuses, mcbs, spds and goes to MPPT. What’s your opinion about PID boxes is it worth to buy and how about above mentioned setup
Hi Bauju, Is this a camping setup? if in parallel, all panels should be optimised. I’m not sure how well it would work with the MPPT of your particular inverter.
I have 3 panels connected in parallel to mppt. One panels gets little shade only in morning and another panel gets little shade only in evening. Can Tigo help me to optimize. Should I use Tigo optimizer to all 3 panels or optimize only panels which are getting shaded.
Hi Erika, Yes that’s exactly what they do. Providing that panels are not in parallel with another string, you can “selectively deploy” Tigo. Make sure you put them on all shaded panels. If for example panel 9 was also shaded, it would defeat the purpose. Just yesterday we added 1 more optimiser on a job we installed with selective deployment Tigos. I’m looking at the production now. Until today it flatlined at 330w until 10 am. Today it has a steadily increasing curve up to 2000W until 10 am. It’s worth getting it right!
Hi Mark, We have a string have the shade in the early morning on panel 2,3 and 10 (they are all on a string and face west), see below. [1][2.][3.][4][5][6][7][8][9][10.] Can we put just TIGO on panel 2,3 and 10 to optimize the performance? In this case, when the three panels are under the shade, will the performance of the whole string be ~= 7 good panels? Thanks!