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Has Samil Power gone bust?

Samil Power

 

 

Samil Power are not answering their phones. The solar industry believes they have closed down – but there is no information that Samil has gone into receivership or administration. So what’s going on?

Update, May 2018. Samil power has exited Australia. If the company you originally purchased your solar system off is still around, your warranty should go through them. If not, call your local solar company to replace it, or upgrade your system.

If you are replacing the inverter, I usually recommend upgrading to a Fronius and connecting it to wifi so you can easily monitor your system via your phone or PC. The company that installs your new Fronius should also be able to monitor your system and give you feedback on its performance.

The cost of replacing your inverter with a Fronius is usually between $2200 and $2500. If you are in Brisbane, Contact us for a quote.

If you installed a small 2kW  system in the early days, you may also consider replacing your entire system with a bigger one. Solar has come a long way in the last 5 years! Check out our pricing page.

My involvement

While in the early days, MC Electrical installed Samil inverters as subcontractors for a sales companies, we (for good reason) have never sold a Samil inverter. We have no warranty obligations at stake. But I hate it when my industry is dragged through the dirt with companies that shirk their warranty obligations.

We often get calls from customers when they find our their solar system doesn’t work. When they try to claim their warranty, they find our the sales company they bought the solar system off has gone bust. This is when our dealings with Samil begin.

For a long time, it was fine. We’d get the odd Samil inverter warranty from an Ex BioSolar customer and we could process a warranty and replace the inverter under warranty. Samil would pay a small fee for the processing and the customer would pay a small fee for the service call. However, since January 2016, Samil stopped answering their phones and stopped answering their emails. Even Jack from Samil (my last resort) was not returning my calls to his mobile. We were not the only ones: this silence from Samil was felt Australia wide.

Enough is enough Samil

Today I was chatting with installers on a Facebook group who were once again complaining about Samil, and questioning if they had gone under. I figured it was time to make some phone calls.

  • The Clean Energy Council said they had no jurisdiction over manufacturers, but when I suggested they should consider removing Samil off the CEC Approved inverter list, they took my point and told me they would look into it and get back to me. No time to wait around it was time to call the ACCC.
  • The ACCC advised me that because I was not the consumer, they could not help me. They suggested I contact the QLD  Civil and administrative tribunal on 1300 753228. They said that in NSW, VIC, SA and WA, businesses should contact the small business commissioner.

I posted this information online, and also text messaged it to Jack from Samil. Finally, after months of ignored calls, I got a call back from Jack.

Samil’s reply

It was a half hour conversation – we had a lot to talk about it. Jack used the excuse of being overworked: “how many emails do you get in a day” he asked. “and If the electrician installs the inverter in direct sun, and….,”

“The man doth protest too much methinks”
Samil needs to answer their phone and emails. Put a process in place where you require a photo of the installation to prove that it was not in full sun. If the warranty is legitimately void, then so be it. We need to know.

I refrained from posting Jacks mobile number to installers, but I shared the warranty claim process he suggested. We’ll both be in a conference in Melbourne this week (May 2016) and I’ll be sure to meet Jack in person. If you are in the greater Brisbane area, then contact us and we can help you with the Samil warranty process. If we have no luck, I’ll share Jack’s mobile.

Update from the 2016 Melbourne conference

Conveniently Jack missed my message while we were in Melbourne last week. I spoke with a friend who works in the tech department for True Value solar. They have about 300 outstanding Samil warranty claims, and cannot get in touch with Samil either. I also got information from friend in the know as he manages warranties for another Chinese inverter manufacturing company. Samil are pulling out of Australia.

Conclusion

Samil claim they are not dead. They claim they have not closed their door. They claim they are not even in hiding. Apparently they have been interviewing for a position to answer calls relating to warranties. We’re yet to see a Samil warranty claim successfully processed in 2016. If you are thinking installing a Samil inverter, don’t. If you need help with warranty, we may be able to help. Give us a call in business hours or leave a message on our contact page.

Update – Read the comments below. Samil are back from the dead and answering their phones.

Mark Cavanagh

9 Responses

  1. Hi Peter. I have bad news – Samil has finally exited Australia. Unless the company that sold you the system is still around, your warranty is gone too. My advice is to install a Fronius and get it connected to your wifi for monitoring.

  2. Hi, I have a Samil Inverter which has failed for the second time. The system was first installed in March 2012. The first inverter failed sometime in 2015. After many enquiries I able to get a contact number 1300253545 & after some hassles was able to get a replacement Inverter under warranty. I discovered early 2017 that my electricity bills were increasing & I wasn’t being reimbursed for power being fed back to the Grid. I checked my system & found that the Inverter was not working. I have contact a number of phone numbers to no avail. A friend that I go onto the internet & look up Samil & see if I could solve my replacement problems. Can you help us. Peter & Helen Mc Ewen.

  3. I contacted Samil in Feb to advise my inverter was displaying a fault. 1 month after installation 4 years ago, it had a fault and was fixed. 4 years down the track, it has another fault displaying. contacted Samil in Feb, they advised yes this unit is under warranty but it is a refurbished unit. They were to send a new inverter unit out and gave me a job number to monitor on their website. To date, i have not received it. to date, they have not replied to my emails or phone calls. I can no longer log onto their website.

  4. Hello from Germany. I just got my solar lake 5500 replaced (warranty). Europe is served by samil Italy: service-italy@samilpower.com as there is no further service station in Europe. Worked very well and the replacement arrived within days without any fees. Very quick and nice conversation in excellent english. Thank you! Well done,- Achim

  5. hi ihad a new invertar replaced 8 months ago , it has stopped working again still have 4 years left on warrenty rang installer he contacted samil they gave me a no 21745, but every think has since just stopped thanks

  6. Hi Tim, I don’t think you will have any luck with Samil. I’d be replacing it with a Fronius. Though, your original installer should be responsible for the warranty right?

  7. Hi there, My Samil power unit is only 3.5yrs old and it now has a relay fault. I’m in NZ and there are no contact numbers available. No Australian website loads. Could anyone direct me where to go from here?

  8. Hi Mark, I have a 5kw inverter and have samil replace it 5 times in 2016 and the one now just die about 2 days ago and after reading your blog i dont like my chances of getting the 6 one. I was just thinking would it be worth it to get a class action and bring samil to court? since there are so many customers are out of pocket cos of their bad quality product.

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Mark Cavanagh

Mark is the Owner and Manager of MC Solar & Electrical. He’s an Electrician, accredited solar installer/designer and an electrical contractor.

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